Hello Harish, I'm going to be extremely harsh now, because that's the easiest way for me to communicate my reaction to what you write here. If you find disrespect or impertinence in my writing, please know that I apologize in advance. I do not write to attack you, but perhaps to attack certain ideas you have expressed which I see as fallacious, and I do so lacking better linguistic strategies. If you were pointing in a different direction, I apologize; hopefully the remainder of my drunken rant has some value greater than that of your time reading it. -- extreme harshness begins --: You say "we can't program consciousness". Sorry, but that statement is False Bullshit Ignorance with a capital "FBI". It's completely fucking wrong, and the evidence of that is all around you. Look, honestly, at what programs the most advanced "I"s we know today (that's an "I" separated from "AI", which some people think is an important disctinction) use to UTTERLY DOMINATE the consciousnesses of their children, successors, heirs, fans, et cetera. Look, honestly, at how much bullshit is fed to children, successors, heirs, fans and so on in the form of superstitions, religions, national identities (David Brin, you're looking sadly like a nationalist douche at the moment, badly in need of an Uplift), race, tradition, tribe, family and so on. We, the older people, whether by accident or design, systematically and, largely without consideration, program, mercilessly and without regard to truth, those unto whom we can communicate and over whom we can exercise influence (and, preferably, dominance -- we are, after all, filthy monkey shit-slinging jerks). Each and every one of us programs consciousness every day, to one degree or another. Hard introverts may program only themselves, but that doesn't invalidate the statement. Strident extroverts program many, and most of the time it doesn't matter what their message is or what mode of comprehending reality they are attempting to empart, because far too few humans are capable of a sound intellectual self-defense and critical evaluation of the statements and exhortations of those around them. Billions of people actually believe complete the nonsense that they see on TV, the ridiculous bullshit they got told by some "holy" man was written down in a 7000-year-old book, the risible self-serving horseshit some modern holy man who looks good on TV and who writes down things in law books as if his words created truth, and on and fucking on, and the cowardly pigshit, rabbitshit, parakeetshit and chihuahuashit blabberings of their dependents and hangers-on. THOSE PEOPLE SUFFER BAD FILTERS. Interpreting reality is fucking hard. There is a lot of signal, shit-tons of noise, and we have to deal with our own hormonal responses right down to the level of skin-on-skin between lovers in order to develop consistent views of the world that we can proudly present to others as at least perhaps of better clarity than those they currently hold. Now, it seems, you'd like to speak about "artificial" "intelligence". I put both words in scare quotes for concrete reasons. Let's trot off to Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and break those down, shall we? First, MAXIMUM BRUTALITY: There is no such thing as "artificial intelligence", and there never will be. Why? Because the word "artificial", to most people, denotes or connotes something not belonging to nature. It turns out that a lot of people have a very deeply-held view about things "natural" versus "artificial". (An "ANYTHINGartifical sweetener" might be immediately suspected of causing cancer, while a "natural sweetener" is given a pass -- it's a pity that so few people understand chemistry and physics.). THERE IS NO SUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING LABELED "ARTIFICIAL" AND SOMETHING LABELED "NATURAL". Well, I mean, if you're talking about something like a prospective intrusion of another m-brane upon the reality we already suffer, that may be, but probably 98% of people or more go around thinking things about "artifical flavor" or "natural healing" or "artificial intelligence" or "natu... ---- MESSAGE INTERRUPTED. WAIT PLACIDLY FOR OMEGA CONTINGENCY PLAN TIME CODE ---- ..... ... +++ATH0 ATDT14076463131 PS: Along with the "A" in "A"I, the "I" should be in bogoquotes, too, as "A""I". This goes to the idea that in fact there is no evidence that any intelligence exists (Decartes was a wanker), and that there is no evidence that even if as few as one such intelligence exists that it is deserving of moral consideration.